I realize it’s not the ‘collaborative list editing’ that we still want someday, but we realized sharing a copy of a list is a very common use case as well and one we felt we could make very low friction and useful for the new Clear’s launch.
If you’ve used one of those Mac apps where it auto uploads when you take a screenshot and copies the link to your clipboard, this take is analogous and similarly low friction and useful.
I would consider this feature more in ‘alpha’ state, we have some features and polish we plan to round it out with. Very curious what you all think of this feature.
I thought it was going to be today but I messed up and the build that will unlock another 10k slots for future mailings is under review. (If it was a higher build # than the previously approved one it would’ve been instant and skip review.)
I think it will be approved by tomorrow and then I’ll mail out a link with 5k more slots!
I think the way it was before was that instead of the options being the orange from the list’s personalized Sunset theme, it was always the green from the app-wide Welcome To Miami theme?
I could be making this up, but it jumped right out to me today, and I swear I used to always see the green in all my lists while customizing.
I know Shared is only in alpha form, but I have some early bugs/feedback.
Random bars left over after deletion. This is after deleting 3 lists. It doesn’t happen every time.
After backing out a tier and re-entering there are still some left over. Closing the app entirely clears them though.
The instructional text is abnormally large (this is in Tiny mode), and missing the period at the end (lol). Might work better as a caption up top(?), or definitely just smaller, like quotes size.
The padding at the top in Archive, Catalog, and Personalize is extra extra in this new version.
I don’t like that sharing is also activated via screenshot. The pull-prompt is enough. For various reasons I am often screenshooting lists (like to create the image above, for example) and I’ve had to go in and weedwhack soooo many accidental lists already from the Shared section just in the last day. [EDIT: Yeah this aspect of it is an absolute mess, haha. I feel like an exterminator.] The screenshot should be for what it used to be for, the plain text/elongated version of screenshots, absolutely key features that I can no longer find.
One of the two pull options on an already-shared list seems like it does nothing? Like I have To Do in there, and the one with the down arrow makes it say “Added To Do” on the bottom. But nothing new happens.
And I guess I don’t really understand the overall point? Like I need better explaining/onboarding. As it stands I’m not sure I’ll use this at all, or what happens at the other end when I send a list to a person, how live updates are viewed, why there are duplicates, if they’re still viewable after I remove them, etc. I want to send some back and forth to my girlfriend to understand it more, but I don’t wanna take up a beta slot unless I’m sure she’ll use the app regularly overall.
More might occur to me. If so, I’ll edit later. Thanks as always for your hard work.
Yes, Yes, and No, the last of which makes sense I think for this feature but we should handle more gracefully. I am pretty sure we will still be shipping a couple other formats to share (text and image for example).
Will catch up here more properly later, had the server go down earlier today and we were debugging it, it ran out of space!
The ability to copy and share lists is, for me, essentially the ability to export and import them. This is a welcome addition indeed. I can communicate (even with myself) outside the boundaries of the app. I haven’t yet mastered its uses completely, but I am already grateful for it.
Naturally, as usual, I hope someday to see cross-device and cross-platform synchronization. That will be a whole new world (or rather a recapture of an old world) for this app. I would like to see less attention to cosmetic enhancements. They are no substitute for fundamental extensions of Clear’s power.
Syncing/merging unfortunately remains a big project for us so hoping to get there eventually. But yeah personalization isn’t just about cosmetics, the next TestFlight build will probably introduce personalizable gesture shortcuts which is turning out satisfying so far and feels like it is an extension of Clear’s power in the way you describe.
We just changed things with caching on the server so any lists you deleted should be gone from server + any new shared list you delete should now delete MUCH more quickly. In my personal testing so far it’s instantaneous, but please let me know if it takes longer for you.
Just pushed an update to this TestFlight, basically #6.1:
• Deleting shared lists should remove them instantly from server (previously was cached)
• Simple “List has been deleted” page vs. 404
• Canceling out of share sheet for link sharing will auto delete/not pop up about share
• List image thumbnails are now compressed for uploading and previewing quicker
• Error handling when unable to reach server
• Fixed link sharing still triggering via screenshot (from old screenshot to share function)
Appreciate the feedback here and bug reports / texts I was sent, I think with a couple more passes over future betas this feature will feel pretty tight.
It’s not collaborative list sharing, but this is nice!
Question: Should you be able to SAVE your own SHARED list? Because that’s what I did by accident when testing and I ended up with a duplicate list.
I shared one of my lists.
Then I went to Shared Lists.
I then saved a copy of my own shared list.
I now have two identical lists.
I wouldn’t know which list is which, except I think the new list copy gets added to the top of your lists. If the list count feature were to return, at least you could get an idea if a list has been revised if the list count number has changed.
Maybe there should be a time/date stamp somewhere maybe in a list settings?
