For all of you testing, here’s what’s new in the latest TestFlight build: :gem: chance for themes/fonts as loot for pulling to clear :eyes: tap popup after unlocking loot to check it out :writing_hand: new typography options, mix & match sizes/fonts :memo: all text throughout app reflects text personalization :point_up_2: reintroduced pull down to go back (tap above home bar also active) :wave: minor revisions to Getting Started list :no_entry: disabled NLP reminders for launch… :no_entry: disabled buggy toggle all list items for now Update: Hot Fix TestFlight #2.1 Hot fixes giant padding in last build: Header rows are tweaked in height and text offset across all levels. Font sizes are slightly adjusted from TestFlight 2 Getting Started list now renders at normal list sizes, not top-level list sizes Fixed a typo in the Settings screen. Cartridge-Bold should load properly now. Previously: TestFlight #1: Experimental back gesture You can collect the following fonts so far: BASE FONTS: San Francisco Rounded San Francisco Yeseva One RARE FONTS: Cormorant Garamond Courier New Baskerville Helvetica Permanent Marker Noteworthy Grape Nuts LEGENDARY FONTS: iA Writer Quattro Jet Brains Mono Captain Edward Cartridge Easy Coast Hylia Partly Vault Alarm Womprat Inter Amatic Ballet Bonbon Monoton Sarina WindSong Hope you all have some fun with the collectible fonts to mix and match with themes! They’re a preview of the personalizing dimension we’re going to be going deep with on the new Clear. This is something of a transitionary build though, to start really gearing up for final release. So let me address some questions: Why are NLP (natural language parsing) reminders disabled? Basically the natural language side of this single feature is so much more complex and open ended to wrap up and polish, that it could honestly take the rest of the summer to nail this single feature. We would rather ship the rest of the new Clear. The best case scenario is Apple vastly updates their NLP API this WWDC in a way that supports our basic needs, or we decide to ship a simpler version of reminders with a non NLP trigger. What we really want to avoid is every time you make a new item there’s something visually nagging you about making it a reminder, I feel this was a regretful UI design in Clear 1.x. Basically still working on figuring this out. Why is the medium/default text so big? First I think we left too much padding in on medium settings making each row taller, which we will fix. I do also have a bias towards larger sizes in Clear, starting with the 1.0. Why? I find it promotes being more concise and less typing, to keep items to a single row, and fills the screen in a more satisfying way when listing or checking things off. But it’s totally possible it’s pushed a little too far in this build and should be dialed back, and it’s not a big deal to tweak these values. Someone was speculating we might be designing/running on a Max, and this is true, charging my test mini as we speak to get a better sense of the other extreme side of screen sizes. Why is spacing/padding and some font sizes changed in this build? Basically we had to redo how Clear handles its UI text labels etc. so they will all respect your typography choices in this build and moving forward. We eyeballed it but have some tightening / polish on the values in a future pass and can focus on the main regressions brought up. P.S. there was another thread started already by the community let me see if I can merge it into here.

I’ve been thinking about toning down on the emoji sprinkled throughout the app and pre-filled lists etc. It does feel like too much at this point! (And if anyone was wondering, we wouldn’t ship with that standard emoji check in the app level for “Clear” if going that route, it would match your current app icon.)

Similar to others; the fonts were so big I thought I had messed it up with accessibility settings. But! I’m so so so glad to see Clear showing signs of life.

I think I keep subconsciously inching up the font size in new Clear as a bigger font size person hoping people won’t notice but I get it, you all notice. I’ll tone it down the default next build :sweat_smile: And yeah! Feels great to be back on this final push to get it out to the world.

I appreciate keeping the tap to go back instead of just dumping it for the swipe down. Having both options is good for those who prefer one or the other. In fact I found that I was using both depending on the circumstance. Say, if I have a VERY long list I just tap to go back rather than having to scroll back a mile up the page to then swipe again. Also there are times when I’m working toward the top of a list where it makes more sense to swipe down to back out. Best of both worlds! Good work. Keep it coming :grin:

Yeah we will probably make tap above home bar one of the personalizable gestures in a future TestFlight. Testing that feature (a set of personalizable gestures / actions to pair) internally and it feels like a good way to let users opt into some personally useful functions and interactions while still allowing us to keep the core simple and minimal, and continuing with a theme of personalization in the new Clear.

Hello everyone! I hope you are all well! First, thank you guys for the TestFlight invitation! And please don’t take my comments as assaulting you! Unfortunately, I’m in a bit of shock. I mean, OK I was watching all the videos you and the users made, and the screenshots too, and I would think OK this is looking great! It seems like a nice reboot! But when I got to use it today, though… Well I cannot say I’m happy. Don’t get me wrong, this is YOUR app and YOUR vision, you can do whatever you want with it. I just can’t see the new version as a good replacement for the old one. The old Clear was so much cleaner, more compact, AND visually pleasing. My main issues are: What’s with the padding? Too. Much. Padding. Everywhere. Why? Even with the Tiny text, there’s so much wasted space! I am including a screenshot of the main lists. I find it rather unacceptable, and I’m using a Pro Max device. Can’t imagine how it would look on a SE or normal iPhone. Emojis. Emojis everywhere. Guys, please chill. Kindergarten is calling, they want all their emojis back cause the kids are crying. And I have to stick with my opinion that the exploding text really isn’t looking good in person. The magic of the original Clear was that it was so clean, so minimalistic and professional, it would get out of your way and it had one feature that separated it from the rest: the heatmap. That was the core characteristic. It conveyed at a glance what was important and what could wait in every list. Now it’s all looking so “busy”. The pull-down-to-go-back gesture needs some work. It feels off, when compared with the old Clear. It’s as if the old Clear was scrolling 1:1 with your finger, but the new one as if the UI is “lagging” behind your finger. I cannot explain it well enough, but it feels off. Both exploding text AND confettis? Really?? [clearsize]

We’ll be looking into this today, the padding specifically feels like an accidental regression during this typography build and system redo/swap.

I got an invite a couple days ago to download the new Clear, so I did. My first reaction was space inflation – it only fit about half the items on my screen as the old one. I managed to set my font size down to the minimum, which made it more resemble the old version, but there is still a lot of white space at the top and bottom of each entry that wasn’t there before. Phone screens are already too small – it would be nice to be able to condense the display to fit more items on them, as the old Clear did.

We actually did mess up! With too much row padding when we were redoing how the type in the app is rendered with this very latest TestFlight build. We should be issuing a fix in the next build.

I just issued a hot fix for the padding issues. I hope this resolves it reasonably for now!

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Testflight #2: Collectible Fonts & Loot Drops, NLP Reminders disabled for launch

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